At Beverly’s house, Kathleen arrives angry that Beverly spoke to Ben Owens without warning her. Lucy watches from the kitchen as Beverly refuses to apologize and argues that Ben is simply giving people a chance to hear the truth. Kathleen worries Beverly could be sued for implying Matt killed Savvy, but Beverly insists she only repeated the cruel things Matt said and believes the town has been too eager to defend him.

The argument widens into a dispute about what should and should not be made public. Kathleen complains that Ben’s podcast focuses too much on sex and says Lucy should be careful about what she reveals in her own interview. Beverly pointedly says Lucy should tell the truth about Matt, and Lucy agrees outwardly even as Savvy’s voice undercuts the idea that truth matters. Lucy recognizes that Kathleen is trying to manage the story by discouraging talk about Matt, Don, and anything else that could embarrass the men connected to the family.

Lucy then deliberately shifts the conversation to Colin Dunn, forcing Kathleen into another uncomfortable confession. Kathleen first resists, then admits Ben was partly right that she and Colin had sex, but says it happened only once, at Savvy’s wedding, rather than being an ongoing affair. Lucy confirms that Colin and Savvy were seeing other people, which removes one possible justification for Kathleen’s defensiveness but does not erase Lucy’s suspicion.

The scene ends with Beverly teasing Kathleen and Lucy joining in, especially when the conversation turns to whether Colin was good in bed. The joking tone lightens the room, but the exchange leaves Lucy with a clearer view of her mother’s habits: Kathleen minimizes men’s bad behavior, wants damaging truths kept quiet, and still tries to control how the past is told.